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my name is Steve Jason from Swansea UFO

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network and I'm here today we

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Emlyn and Mike from sue fun

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and we've come down to Scottie Dane in

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Swansea to interview mr. Howard Milton

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so what the hell is right I am first

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dude right here we are singled in

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hospital so we're gonna go down I was

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going to tell us exactly where he wasn't

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at least 65 when you were at 118 AG 19

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yeah see I'm trying to figure out it

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could be late 64 because I saw it's been

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built in 63 identities with each

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I will show you

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nothing okay

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very mind in the 60s this wasn't the

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highway like the day he was an old is a

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lane single carriage eyes dissing up two

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cars and the lighting wasn't the modern

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lighting it was street lamps with like

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200 watt bulbs it you could change them

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so it was quite dark every hundred yards

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it was a lamp standard but the light was

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like directing down so sketchy lanes

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very dark and all the way down there

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were trees which stop here and the main

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entrance was just by here then it says

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what this building was and why you would

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like this is the university you know the

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original sports are getting built in

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1922 with the the swimming pool next

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door and that was the original gym which

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is still used as a training room now

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they've got the new center set up but my

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father from 1964 10-12 years was the

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head groomsman he ran up in fair word

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and I lived here for buddy eight years I

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went to college later on

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but that was my mini bedroom and that's

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where I actually saw it and I was

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studying for my a-levels at the time 64

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November we've got help of 6:00 in the

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evening dark it was quite dark along

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here to see occasional light so

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something I just have to look out the

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window or it's felt something and I

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could see this huge craft don't mind

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these trees would yeah the woods are

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over there all all that all there was

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would be covered

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see so I looked out the window and about

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100 feet 3 30 40 meters above the

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hospital the size of the hospital was

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this very fat cigar shaped object with

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fatter in the middle and tapered off

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it's just like it was hung there wasn't

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moving at all no sound so I couldn't

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believe I thought might be reflection or

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it looked like a balloon one thing is

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you know 19 in their forties well it was

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happy it was about 100 feet above the

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hospital and the length of the hospital

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so you can work out some massive yeah

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and the width of it was the width of the

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12 saw or whatever they are like 10

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stories that quite big so I run

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downstairs and by the time I've done

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that I don't long as being there put

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them in a while but we watched it for 15

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minutes and in the middle of the road

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with the cardstock and some people like

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probably middle aged couple and someone

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across the road was staring at that yeah

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yes evoke see whether traffic lights are

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too wild oh yeah and I ran up here the

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gate was here and we all stood that they

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just watch us at the time the hospital

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has been built there was no it just

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finished the electrics ridden the

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electrics are in and I think the first

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patrons were already in because as I

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came down to watch it all the lights

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were flashing on and off on all fours

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you know Close Encounters in Third Kind

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when they were flashing I was like is

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exactly like that but

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I couldn't give an episode nothing was

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seen that

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so we just watched it and then light

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started by the way I mentioned that

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remembered all those lights flashing off

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in the mid 60's he does remember that I

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could have get more information about

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that but he's no canary I know yeah I

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love to ask her yeah but anyway so we

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watched it for another 10 or 15 minutes

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we just couldn't believe what we were

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seeing you know something Russians are

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mentioned you know but all of a sudden

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after all that flashing it had stopped

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they're dead quite barrier minded is

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this no lights from this craft it was

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like a silhouette of black silver white

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silhouette and you just hang in there as

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it being painted on the sky you know

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which is so quite awesome really it was

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just incredible sight you know and all

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the sudden it started juddering or just

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prior to the judge rain anything like a

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luminous green light there was remember

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this is quite the quarter site they'll

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always remember it up here like a window

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in the middle of the circumference of

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the line of the crop I don't know if it

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went all the way around cuz we only saw

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one side of it but I bazooms it so it

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would appear like a small little window

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and all the sudden it instantaneous

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stretched out like a line thin line with

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public sector Intel but is bright during

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the screen and winning a rich full

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capacity by hey Ronnie

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then it did it for about five seconds

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and then the materialized this would be

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right in front of our eyes just like

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that yes there's no no movement just a

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genuine and D materialized and as a

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preteen okay theorized you could see

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that the dark sky and all the sudden

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stars died to come back there was

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nothing there's like it left the black

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patch for about five seconds their son's

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bear then they started to come back it

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yes I we looking back on it I think

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because this is one of the biggest

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like looking back

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think it must have reached out and

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discovered this was the big energy

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source and the material and materialized

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they're charged up with something must

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have happened to it used all the energy

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using some Collider Wi-Fi system because

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there's no lights coming down which is

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and we must have soaked up the energy to

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give another cook quick battery start it

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open and then once it had charged up D

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materialize but the people have just

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done they're scratching their heads and

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then they should be shoulders and when

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the car wasn't off so didn't speak about

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it you know they did this wonderful that

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was it you know and then you know he

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said 50 odd years ago people don't know

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it in the papers nothing at well as far

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as I know all I know it's that summer I

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upon large fireballs in Overtown hell in

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in the daylight but you can check that

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chat but I certainly asked any was bad

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now but certainly ask if you think it

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was having some effect on the electrics

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of the building oh definitely yeah they

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disappeared the electrics went back to

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normal yeah well before that they went

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back to Morgan it obviously when they

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were sucking up this direct energy using

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some kind of Wi-Fi beam system could he

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just to give it a kickstart detail I

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hope see whoever was honestly the idea

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of instantaneous whether it was

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interesting trouble and interdimensional

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travel as we know no I don't know

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so you ever walk over the hospital carpi

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we get a better idea how big the

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building

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you know when they go into wool socks

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never seen a

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so it looked like you've gone into seven

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Piper walk right but dematerialize Riley

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there's an extension on the end of this

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building now I think this is the

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original building when he goes

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two-thirds away along and I think

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but it covered the whole of the hospital

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underfoot the photo you can imagine the

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signs of it I would say about the size

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of the hospital because he was above it

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hundred feet above it was about the size

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I do the hundred because I can you know

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they should extend their Gill hall clock

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that's 120 feet

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I need that looked like comparable the

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distance between the top of the building

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you

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we get a really good view of how big the

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building yes how long do you think that

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those those trees and that this brown

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brick building wasn't there there and

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that was built much later on so I had a

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clear view from both trees weren't there

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either way by the the traffic light you

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could see exactly he's actually was so

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near you had to look up like that that's

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how far near we were by those Heights so

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you walked up to weather like tahno yeah

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which was just a little lady was very -

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in lane there's only you know two cars

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I'm not even looking up at it yeah yeah

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really of that because how high above

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the building was the bottom of it I was

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saying hundred feet you know so hundred

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feet above the building yes yes yeah but

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it was huge what it was huge so I got a

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feeling though that that last bit

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there's an extension so if you go to

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that that they're like blue and dark

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blue section there that that was the

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original building and the bear in mind

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the craft is about the same so maybe a

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bit longer I I would say that if it have

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got restaurant on the roof Devine the

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size of the possible as it is now and it

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would be the same width as a hospital

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but I didn't see the other story but you

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know he said you said it's a really put

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we've curved like the same pretty she

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was slim difficult it was a good soon if

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do you think it could have been a desk

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mood edged on don't know he's too it was

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too wide in the middle is quite wide

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right so he was like a cigar was it like

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a cigar but very thick in the middle why

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they're not selling them but tapered off

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like my cigar and no sharp edges

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completely around and dark like quite

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flat but dark gray brown brown black you

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know there's no no coloring no windows

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no likes apart from that green look

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luminous must have freaked you out

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oh yeah but what I was just I mean I've

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been interested the deceased a me I was

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a guy a boy typical boy stick Eagle

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comic and annual Hills looking up the

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star but to see something physical was

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18 and I could never get an answer I

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spent years trying to find out exactly

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how this worked you know and now I find

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out if it can be worked music seen his

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face physicists in America but they said

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to to do that type of thing you have to

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build something again the size of the

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hospital to make it work let alone the

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size of the craft you know so they

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trying to miniaturize so whoever did

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that obviously miniaturized this system

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of propulsion or the sky was dark yeah

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is half a section up middle in November

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and what's the weather like cloudy is

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like tonight my changes is yeah there's

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no we're not following I'll remember no

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but there's no there's no light

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pollution because your onion at the

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bulbs pointing downwards so when you

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walk ten yards away he was dark until he

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picked up the next lamp you know yeah

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intriguing limited by manometer so

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obviously I could never find out if it

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was in the dimensional or something

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that's like a super hyper drive but but

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it didn't use was any sound no sound

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nothing

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it is gendered for it went no move just

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like someone painted on the sky that's

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why I couldn't believe it

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those upstairs II know I didn't actually

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move the gendered but there's no sound

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but you could feel something you said

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some motorists stopped and they got up

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can remember what they did what they

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said bit in two cars one coming down the

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lane and because it next to each other's

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narrow low and they just stopped there

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and there's hardly any other cars for

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quiet time that hard for six

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a lot of traffic and maybe just stand

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there looking at it I got didn't I don't

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think they mention anything I mean

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there's 50 odd years ago I don't

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remember I think one scratch tin head

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got my car and drove off I mean these

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days you'd have you mobile phones and

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their digital cameras going but all I

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have is my 35 minutes slightly now I

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remember you telling me that what after

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he disappeared you you couldn't see the

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stars well it knows he was a guitar

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spacetime seconds a song yeah remember

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like any sort of came back then you

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could see one stars it was a clear night

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you know but there's nothing i I've seen

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nothing since and I I don't know if

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anybody else seen something that large

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anyways he had caught up one of the

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closing up the Fourth Kind maybe I don't

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know but it is something

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it was quite all inspiring to see that

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you could see home at was some city was

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a big dark it was a black desk yeah yeah

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how are you able to see it against the

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dark sky though well if it was darker

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the way it was shaped it was like cut

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out as if he was painted so she was

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darker doesn't look like black by heart

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the six and it was dark but it wasn't

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black this was darker than the sky yeah

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basically and that's how I put that I

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ran downstairs to make sure it was what

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I was here you know and then these cars

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already was the it was the flashing

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lights on the hospital that attract

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attention

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yeah that they've got the flashing

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lights came on after I went out to buy

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run down the stairs Tom I got through

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here and I got to the lights then they

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started flashing but oh well he's guys

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must've seen it and stopped when the

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wires and then they saw the craft so

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weird but I know I I just assumed lose

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later on after knowing what I know

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the new techniques and bad science and

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but how many people see one of those on

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there you see lots of lights and metal

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objects and whooshing off in the sky but

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this was not metal that there was I

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don't know what he's made of but it was

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no reflection

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it was dark with just that luminous

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green line you know when he found start

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the car and you know the red lighting go

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they've got like this was all of a

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sudden came green and then people

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internalize it's a very early Satan yeah

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yeah well there's no one to talk about

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anything else there was no one to

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mention it I mean I did mention to my

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parents I think my father saw it but

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they didn't really like something come

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along you know that's it we don't hang

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about it that's it there was no one no

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like places that you've got sooo fun in

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uniform everywhere now we've gone

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there's no they might have been in

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America and there's nothing as far as I

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know this country might be dabbling in

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it but they all thought you four guys

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are nuts in those things anyway leaving

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too many

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comics no but we know a lot more

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but yeah it's tuk that image stop me all

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I mean when you see something like that

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when you're in your teens

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astaizu for life - no accent that's a

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big cycle

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I mean these days like the information

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but 15 years ago to see something that

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size he's Dima - your lives right in